Some of the more unique aspects of royal life are what we find so fascinating here at the Royal Post, and one area we haven’t discussed yet is passports. Since they interest us, we thought you’d like to learn more as well so let’s dive in!
The British Royals
One of the perks of being The Queen of England is that she is the only citizen of the United Kingdom who does not need a passport when travelling overseas.
‘Her Britannic Majesty’s Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.’
So, since British passports are issued in the name of The Queen, it is unnecessary for her to have one herself. She is the only exception; the rest of her family, including The Duke of Edinburgh and The Prince of Wales, have passports and must carry them when travelling abroad.
The fascinating book In Private In Public the Prince and Princess of Wales by Alastair Burnet includes a look at the passports that Diana and Charles carried in the mid ’80’s (such a fun read – you can pick up a copy here.
These passports don’t appear to have a special mark showing any special diplomatic status, but if we’re mistaken please let us know in the comments!
Here’s an inside look at Diana’s passport as well; it was part of the exhibit on her life at Althorp. No severe and boring drug store passport photo for the Princess of Wales!
Diana’s childhood passport was also included in the exhibit and I remember seeing it there on my visit to Althorp in the summer of 2001. Unfortunately the photo is teeny tiny, but I can just make out that her birthplace is listed as Sandringham, England on on 1-7-61. At this point, she would have been The Honourable Diana Frances Spencer and apparently Diana’s dad took all the photos of the Spencer siblings that were used in their passports.
We also know that William and Kate applied for a passport for Prince George in advance of their trip to Australia in 2013. Understandably, no pictures have been published of William, Kate, or George’s passports but I do have an anecdote!
An acquaintance of mine worked at the Welcome Centre at the Athlete’s Village during the 2012 London Olympics. At all Olympic Athlete’s Villages, the Welcome Centre essentially functions as Customs for the village. Anyone who is not an Olympic athlete must enter through the centre and be on a pre-screened and approved list and, without exception, each visitor must bring their passport with them to be left at the Centre for the duration of their visit. Most people are great about following the rules, but William and Kate sidestepped this and just brought photocopies. The gall! The folks running the centre weren’t pleased but…they let them in.
The House of Grimaldi
When Grace Kelly married Prince Rainier, she became a citizen of Monaco and decided to retain her US citizenship. This photo of her American passport surfaced on the internet – interesting that she calls herself ‘Grace Kelly Grimaldi’, right?
Prince Albert reportedly claimed dual citizenship as well, but gave it up when he turned 21. He is, however, enormously proud to have visited each and every State; he seems to bring that up in every interview with an American reporter.
The Royal Family of Denmark
There is limited information about the passport situation for Denmark’s royal family, however it is widely reported that all members of the Royal Family have diplomatic passports. We also know that when Queen Margarethe’s sons married foreigners Alexandra Manley, Mary Donaldson, and Marie Cavallier they were all given Danish citizenship. Understandably, it caused a bit of a fuss when they got to sidestep the normal channels to receive their passports.
When Princess Alexandra and Prince Joachim divorced, she reportedly was allowed to retain her diplomatic passport. The thinking there was that her and Prince Joachim’s sons Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix would both have diplomatic passports so it would be impractical if their mother didn’t have one as well when travelling.
Also, King Constantine and Queen Anne-Marie of Greece can carry Danish diplomatic passports since they are descended from a Danish King and Queen. Members of their family, like Prince Pavolos and Princess Marie Chantal can also carry Danish passports since they are a Prince and Princess of Denmark. More details about that can be read here if you’re in the mood.
We’ll stick with those three royal families for now, but we’ll keep digging for more information and do feel free to share anything you know in the comments!
We write about a lot of random royal stuff here, and today’s post is no exception. Now that William and Kate’s tour of Australia and New Zealand is about to start, we’ve been inspired to take a closer look at royal luggage over the years. After all, who doesn’t love a peak behind the curtain? Luggage with tags marked with ‘The Queen’ fulfills that for me.
The Queen is the only British Citizen who doesn’t need to travel with a passport since all British passports are issued in her name. Her family members travel on diplomatic passport and they also use a handy colour coded luggage tag system to keep things organized. Different family members have different coloured tags assigned to them, and they also specify where the luggage is to be delivered (i.e. ‘Residence).
The Queen’s tags are always yellow as you can see here. This stack of luggage was for the Queen’s 2007 tour of the US and are pretty normal looking when you consider what’s inside them., right?
Naturally, royal jewels travel as carry on!
This photo of Charles and Diana was taken in 1981 and shows the couple arriving in London. In this case, Diana had a couple pieces of carry on luggage.
Things were remarkably different for their tour of Australia in 1985. This photo, taken at the Melbourne airport, shows the pile of luggage that the Prince and Princess of Wales required for the trip. This particular shot comes from the delightful book Dressing Diana by Tim Graham (it can be purchased here and is sooo worth having in your royal library).
Check out the standing wardrobe case!
For this tour, the Princess of Wales was assigned pink tags and the yellow tags designated where the luggage was to be delivered. Looks like this was the ninth of many more bags! I just LOVE the organization.
Here’s an excerpt from the book:
“On this tour of Australia and America, Diana took twenty daytime outfits, twelve hats, more than a dozen evening dresses, fifteen pairs of shoes and matching bags, nineteen pairs of earrings, two tiaras, eight necklaces and assorted pairs of tights to match her outfits. Accompanying Diana was her dresser, Evelyn Dagley, who was on hand to help the Princess with her many changes each day. After Australia, the couple flew straight to America. The Princess had meticulously preplanned both trips and unveiled a whole new set of evening gowns, coats, and daywear for the visit, including the show-stoping Victor Edelstein dark blue velvet number she wore to the While House dinner and dance hosted by President Reagan.”
That would be this one, of course and I’m guessing it would have been hung in that standing wardrobe case so the velvet wouldn’t be crushed:
Since we’re stepping back in time, here’s an article that appeared in the LA Times the following day (November 12, 1985).
WASHINGTON — If you’re wondering why Princess Diana danced with John Travolta, Clint Eastwood and Neil Diamond but not Mikhail Baryshnikov, the man who sat next to her at that fabulous White House dinner, it was because the ballet dancer had sore ankles and could not do so. . . . The dance with Travolta was quite the talk of Washington the next day. The music they were dancing to, according to Travolta, was a medley of the music from two of his movies, “Grease” and “Saturday Night Fever,” as played quite beautifully by the U.S. Marine Dance Band. (Source)
Prince Charles & The Duchess of Cornwall
Moving a long to a more recent tour, here is some of Charles and Camilla’s luggage being offloaded upon their arrival in Sweden in March of 2012. What a great behind the scenes look!
This was the red carpet arrival they really wanted us to see, but I”m sure you’ll agree it’s not nearly as interesting as all those bags coming down the stairs.
In this photo, Harry’s wheeling out his now ex-girlfriend Chelsey Davey’s bag from Heathrow in September 2007. He was an hour late to pick her up, was totally in the dog house and was trying to make amends.
He thinks nothing of schlepping his own bags and is shown here arriving at Hollyroof House for Zara’s wedding back in the summer of 2011.
And while were’ on the subject of that wedding, what I loved most about the coverage was all the photos of royals arriving and leaving with their bags.
Here’s Sophie leaving the morning after with her hat box.
The bride was also photographed getting ready to leave (the striped bag she’s carrying is an Anya Hindmarch traveler bag that is comes tucked away in her bags when you buy them).
Her need husband Mike Tindall was photographed still wearing his suit from the day before (but he did change shortly after).
And here’s Zara’s brother Peter and his wife Autumn packing up to head home.
William & Kate
William luggage to include his official monogram. This photo was taken during Kate and William’s tour of North America.
In contrast, Kate’s luggage is a total miss mash. While living in London after graduating from university, Kate was a weekend warrior (she only worked 4 days a week which helped) and the green bag below made a lot of appearances. By the way, I have those same shoes she’s wearing in the pic below. They are from LK Bennet and the are just the best, though I think the last time they were in stores was 2008.
Here is the bag and those shoes again.
This was taken at Gatwick airport in July of 2007. Kate was en route to the Seychelles where she met prince William (he arrived shortly after her). This was after the short-lived April 2007 breakup heard around the world..
Ok, now we’ll fast forward to the summer of 2011 when Kate and William toured Canada. Remember the big accidental dress reveal?
It happened as Kate and William’s luggage was being loaded into the airport in Yellowknife, and eagle eyes spotted the dress and correctly assumed the dress was for the BAFTA event they were to attend in Los Angeles. Here it is on Kate.
And here’s a close up of some of the other luggage on the tarmac. The spotted one is from Cath Kitson and the red is Longchamp. She has it in a few different colours and sizes.
Government House in New Zealand where Kate and William will stat fir the first part if the tour
UPDATED April 6, 2014: The tour has begun: Kate and William were spotted switching planes in Sydney en route to New Zealand. Kate was carrying her navy Longchamp bag (well, actually William was carrying it for her since she had Prince George). Also, is that a Kangaroo?
And it still looks like a total mishmash of bags. We’ll keep our eyes peeled for more photos like this during the tour.
Ok, and this video is hilarious. Seriously, it made me laugh out loud. It’s a morning news show in Australia and they are trying to make a story out of William and Kate getting on their plane to New Zealand and they’re having a lot of fun with it. They talk about the luggage being loaded on, they beg William and Kate to turn around at the top of the stairs when we’re boarding the plane, and we even see Kate’s secretary Rebecca Deacon carrying a hat box and garment bag onto the plane….so perhaps Kate will be wearing that hat and outfit when she disembarks?
This Royal Poster recently adopted the CUTEST puppy from the Pasadena Human Society. She’s named Ruby and is some sort of beagle/ chihuahua and possibly Jack Russell mix.
Ruby has got us thinking about royals and their pets so today’s post is a rundown of a few favourites.
The Queen’s Corgis
Shall we start with the obvious?
Corgis are probably the first royal pets that come to mind for most of us royal watchers. They have been faithful companions of the Queen since she was a child, starting with a wee little guy named Dookie who was brought home in 1933. He was named for the Duke of York. Cute, eh?
That’s him below. LOOK AT THAT FACE!!
They have been a constant fixture, as you can see from this video taken from Prince Harry’s Christening in 1984. This is one of my all-time favourites and worth a watch or re-watch. In it, you see the Queen explaining to Zara, Peter, and William that her new puppy’s name is “Dash.” Zara asks “Does it bite?” and the Queen replies “No, not yet. But it might after it’s finished with you.”
Lots more corgi info can be found here. Also, this article over at the Daily Mail all about the Queen’s graveyard at Sandringham for her pets is worth a read.
Prince Charles & The Duchess of Cornwall
Prince Charles is also a big fan of dogs and seems to favour Jack Russell terriers.
One of his pet dogs was named Pooh (he was originally named Roo but was renamed by William after the favourite A.A. Milne character). He was a Jack Russell Terrier who sadly went missing on the Balmoral estate in April of 1994. Charles was devastated and put out an ad in the local paper and sadly poor Pooh wasn’t found.
In happier news, the Duchess of Cornwall also loves Jack Russell Terries and has had several over the years. One of them came from the same litter as Pooh, and she currently has two rescue dogs, Beth and Bluebell.
Beth and Bluebell were adopted from the Battersea Dogs Home, and Camilla took them back there for a visit in December of 2012. Hats off to Camilla for being dog resucer! During the tour she told a reporter that ‘”Beth is the sweetest dog with the nicest temperament, she so laid-back. Bluebell is much more feisty but lots of fun. She seems to think she is a lot bigger than she actually and is a bit of a toughie. They are very happy and love each other, though, which is the main thing…I love Jack Russells. They are so intelligent.”
Next up: a guinea pig!
This picture of Lady Diana with her pet guinea pig Peanuts has made the rounds a lot over the years.
Turns out it was taken by photographer John Hocknell in 1972 when Diana was showing her pet at the Sandringham pet show. Here he is proudly showing off the photo:
As you may recall, Diana grew up in Park House before her father became Earl and inherited Althorp, the Spencer Estate. Park House is on the Sandringham estate and the Spencers were often invited over to “the big house” by the royal family. More info on all that can be found here.
This delightful black lab who joined in on this August 1997 photocall at Balmoral was named Widgeon, and she belonged to Prince William.
Back in 2000, Prince William gave an interview to mark his 18th birthday and Widgeon came up, though it wasn’t too enlightening. The full interview can be read here, but here is the Widgeon bit:
Q: How is your dog, Widgeon, and do you have any other pets?
A: Widgeon had eight pups about 18 months ago. I have no other pets.
Oh, you sure had a way with words, William. Anyway, I love the name. Widgeon is a type of duck and it seems very suitable for all the hunting and whatnot that I’m sure she joined in on. Like here on a shoot at Sandringham back in 2009:
Widgeon passed away sometime in 2010, and now of course William and Kate have Lupo!
Princess Mary and Prince Frederick of Denmark
Now over to Denmark. Ziggy is a Danish-born Border Collie who was a gift from the Danish Kennel Club to Mary and Frederick back in 2005. Here he is as a puppy walking with Mary in Copenhagen:
And here he is later with the family:
And I love this photo which was taken to celebrate Mary’s 40th birthday. So dynamic.
The Swedish Royal Family
Labradors are the dog of choice for the Swedish Royal Family. They have had a succession of them over the years and in 2010 they had to say good bye to Jambo, a golden lab who joined the family in in 1998.
Here are a few pictures of the familyd Jambo over the years. What a cutie!
In the palace with Princess Madeleine during a photocell for her 18th birthday. Apparently it was all a big yawn:
And here was his balcony appearance:
And out on the town in Swedish colours:
Princess Grace of Monaco
We’ll end with Monaco.
Princess Grace loved poodles, and had several over the years. One was named Oliver and he was given to Grace by Cary Grant when she left Hollywood to marry Prince Ranier. Oliver joined in on Grace’s cruise to Monaco on S.S. Constitution in April of 1956 and seems to have been quite a hit.
A weimaraner also made the journey. He was a wedding gift from Grace’s brother Jack but I haven’t been able to figure out what his name was. Does anyone know?
Even if you didn’t watch it, no worries! Because I did watch it. Many times. All so that we could have some detailed analysis, because that’s how we roll around here.
First of all, all the bowing and whatnot is so fascinating, right? This video doesn’t show how Camilla first greets the Queen with a curtsey and then she moves over to Prince Philip. She gives him a more informal greeting and no curtsey (maybe she forgot?) and a casual “how are you?” and clap on the shoulder. Goes to show how far Camilla has come in the last ten years!
Meanwhile Harry ducks over to greet Granny with two kisses and a deep head bow, followed by Kate who greets the Queen with a tentative smile, kiss and a curtsey. William, who is carrying Prince George, gives the Queen a quick head bow and then we hear him having a few words with the Queen and the clergy.
“He’s just got quiet. He’s all ready…so far so good.” That sort of thing.
Then Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby says “I have five children myself” and no one seems to really hear him, which is sad. Then another member of the clergy greets Kate with a “Your Royal Highness.” Kate responds with a “Good morning.”
The service was scheduled for three pm, so Kate clearly still gets a but tongue tied around the Queen and video cameras. Can’t really blame her but the haters will have a field day. Shortly afterwards, Kate notices the Duke of Edinburgh and heads over for a curtsey. It’s quite sweet, actually. Everyone seems more warm around Prince Philip today! They then walk in with Prince Philip keeping up the rear and that’s the end of the video coverage.
The Invite List
While there was speculation that two of Kate’s midwives were invited, we didn’t see any evidence of that today. However, we do know that apart from the godparents the attendees were:
Kate, William, and George
The Queen and Prince Philip
Charles and Camilla
Mike and Carole Middleton
Pippa and James
The fact that they wanted to keep it so small to the exclusion of Sophie and Edward, Andrew, and Anne seems a bit short sighted to me. I mean, why not bring the family together for a happy event? Maybe they just didn’t want to then have to invite wayward Uncle Gary? Or Earl Spencer?
The rest of the gathering was made up of the chosen godparents and their spouses. Courtesy of the press release on William and Kate’s official website, the godparents are:
Mr Oliver Baker (Oliver Baker attended the University of St Andrews with The Duke and Duchess)
Mrs David Jardine-Paterson (Emilia Jardine-Paterson attended Marlborough College with The Duchess)
Earl Grosvenor (Hugh) (Earl Grosvenor is the son of The Duke of Westminster)
Mr Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton (Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton served as Private Secretary to The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry from 2005-2012 and continues to serve part-time as Principal Private Secretary and Equerry)
The Hon Mrs Michael Samuel (Julia Samuel was a close friend of The Princess of Wales)
Mrs Michael Tindall (Zara Tindall is The Duke of Cambridge’s cousin)
Mr William van Cutsem (William van Cutsem is a childhood friend of The Duke of Cambridge)
I think it’s just perfect that Kate and William have their two good friends Emilia and Oliver there on the top of the list. Ollie lived with Kate and William for a couple of years at St. Andews and apparently Emilia introduced Kate get into William’s circle before Kate decided to go to St. Andrews (more on that here). Both are also very discrete and protective so they definitely deserve a place. Nice for Kate to have a pal on there, too (there’s so much ink spilled on her not having many friends, so this will help show ’em). Oh, and Emilia is married to the brother of Pippa’s ex boyfriend JJ Jardine-Paterson, so there’s that. No wonder Pippa wanted to show up looking GOOD!
The young Earl of Grosvenor is another nice choice, he’s the closest in age to Prince George and will be a good ally. The Grosvenors own much more of London than the Queen, and no doubt he’ll be able to be a big help to George when it comes to estate planning and what not.
I have to say I was also a bit relieved to see Jamie Lowther- Pinkerton on the list. I’d wondered if perhaps there had been a slight rift, what with him leaving full-time service lately. More info on Jamie can be read in our post on William and Kate’s staff here.
The final three godparents also make a lot of sense.
And here’s Zara today, looking great in Navy. Why not have a cousin and Olympic champion on the roster? Also, her kid and Prince George will be very close in age.
Julia Samuel was another thoughtful choice. She was a good friend of Princess Diana and is the founder of Child Bereavement, a charity that William is involved with.
Wlliam Van Cutsem is the final member of the godparents club. His family has long been close with the Wales’ and his inclusion had been speculated about.
I think it makes sense that Harry and Pippa weren’t included on the list. After all, they will already be closely involved in George’s upbringing.
Pippa and Harry were honoured in that they were both asked to be readers at the service. A nice touch! Maybe James will get his turn next time round. It was also revealed that one of the hymns that was sung had been written for Prince William’s christening.
More details can be seen on the official press release here.
From 1841 to 2004, members of the royal family have been christened in a gown that was commissioned by Queen Victoria for her eldest daughter’s christening. Here’s a photo of the future Queen Elizabeth II in the original gown on her christening day on May 29, 1926:
The Royal christening robe, of fine Honiton lace lined with white satin, was made in 1841 for the christening of Queen Victoria’s eldest daughter, Victoria, Princess Royal. In 1894 the robe was given by Queen Victoria to the Duchess of York (later Queen Mary), all of whose children were christened in it. In the next generation it was worn by the children of King George VI, of Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, and of Prince George, Duke of Kent. The children of The Queen and of Princess Margaret were christened in it, and it has subsequently been used for the christenings of all The Queens grandchildren and other Royal babies, including the grand children of Princess Margaret.
Here’s Lady Louise in the gown – little did she know she’d be the last one to wear it!
After Lady Louise’s 2004 christening, the gown was retired in order to preserve it and a replacement was comissioned by the Queen. Lady Louise’s brother James Viscount Severn wore the new gown for his 2006 christening. A press release for the occasion states:
The Christening Gown worn by Viscount Severn is a hand-made replica of Queen Victoria’s daughter’s Christening Gown, which was worn at subsequent Royal Christenings and has now been preserved. It is the first time this gown has been worn by a member of the Royal Family and was commissioned by The Queen.
Since then it’s believed that both of Peter Philips’ children have worn this new gown. That makes Prince George the 4th of the Queen’s grandchildren or great-grandchildren to wear it.
The other outfit that looked smashing today was Kate’s. She chooses McQueen for big events, and today’s outfit was no exception. The colour and ruffle details echoed the christening gown.
I also liked how Camilla and Pippa showed up in creamy whites – they just looked so fresh and calm. Zara, the Queen, and Carole also all looked great in blue.
Before we end, I thought this would be as good a time as any to take a moment to look over at Princess Diana’s own christening. This photo shows the Hon. Diana Spencer with her parents on her christening day in 1961. Her father was not yet the Earl at this point.
(and psssst…SO MANY rarely seen photos of a young Diana can be seen here. I was blown away by how many I hadn’t seen)
And finally, A rarely seen photo from Diana’s older sister Sarah’s 1955 christening can be seen here. As you can see in the picture, the Queen Mother attended – it’s worth click, I promise.
More Christening Fun
If you haven’t had enough yet, reading some of our past posts on royal christenings might tickle your fancy!
We know that this morning the Queen paid a visit to Kensington Palace to see the new baby, and must have given the name her seal of approval then. Kate and William weren’t required to get it, but it must have been fun to have for them to have a little chat about it this morning. Then, they beetled off to Bucklebury where they must have had a final chat about it with Kate’s family before sharing the news with the world.
As we discussed in our baby name post, George currently sits at #12 for boys names in England and Wales. We’ll see if it shoots up to #1 now. And of course, the patron saint of England is St. George, and Queen Elizabeth’s father went by George when he was crowned king. So many Georges!
Middle Name #1: Alexander
Ok, this wasn’t on our list of predictions so this one was a swing and a miss. Love it, though. There is a lot of history with this name, particularly when it comes to the ladies. For example, Queen Victoria’s first name was actually ‘Alexandrina’ and the current Queen has ‘Alexandra’ as one of her middle names. Princess Alexandra, Lady Ogilvy (one of the Queen’s cousins) is also one of Williams’ godparents.
Plus, it’s got a bit of a modern feel to it for the little chap.
Middle Name #2: Louis
Louis was our #3 prediction since it is one of William’s middle names. William was given the name as a tribute to Louis, Lord Mountbatten who played an important part in Prince Charles’ life. Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex also shares this middle name, and he and Sophie named their daughter Louise.
Louis is is currently tied at #68 with Arthur for most popular baby names in England and Wales.
So there we go! George Alexander Louis is a lovely name and flows very nicely together. As far as why ‘William’ isn’t in there, I guess they just wanted to give the baby his own identity.
Thoughts on The Christening
Now that we have a christening to look forward to for the little Prince of Cambridge, let’s chat about what we can expect.
There’s been some speculation in the (mostly American) press that it will be held in Westminster Abbey. There is NO WAY in heck is that happening.
As with most things royal, I think we should look to tradition for the answer and here’s a fun fact for you: so far, four royal babies have been christened in the Music Room of Buckingham Palace. Four! And all of these christenings have been relatively recent: Prince Charles was the fist, followed by Princess Anne, Prince Andrew, and Prince William. They were all also christened there by the Archbishop of Canterbury, so I believe the Music Room it will be for Prince George.
As a runner up option, Prince Harry was christened at St. George’s chapel at Windsor Castle which would be quite appropriate for little George, too. We’ll see what they choose!
It won’t be televised, but at the very least I think we can expect three or four official photographs to be released, along with a list of the chosen godparents.
So When Will it Be?
As far as when it will happen, it seems that most royal babies are christened at some point between four week and four months old. Prince William was christened on August 4th after his June 21st birthday, Charles on December 15th after being born on November 14, and more recently James Vicount Severn was christened on April 19 after his December 17 birthday. It’s all over the place!
We are talking about the third in line to the throne and future ‘Defender of the Faith, so I think a late September to early October christening is likely as not to interrupt the Queen’s holiday in Balmoral too much.
I mean, we need more photos of her having a lovely time at the Braemar games, which happens at the beginning of September each year.
The Christening Gown
Most important in my books is the christening gown. We’ve already hashed out lots of details of this tradition in our post. British Royal Family Christening Gowns. It was published back in October of 2011 and it’s actually one of our most read posts ever, so let me just boil it down quickly for you.
Basically, since 1841(!), royal babies wore a gown first worn by Queen Victoria’s daughter Princess Victoria. The last royal baby to wear it was Lady Louise Windsor. Here’s Prince Charles in the gown:
The Royal Collection
Then, when Lady Louise’s brother James, Viscount Severn was born, a new gown was introduced. As a press release stated at the time:
“The Christening Gown worn by Viscount Severn is a hand-made replica of Queen Victoria’s daughter’s Christening Gown, which was worn at subsequent Royal Christenings and has now been preserved. It is the first time this gown has been worn by a member of the Royal Family and was commissioned by The Queen.”
It certainly is very frothy and lacy:
Also very important of course, is who William and Kate will choose to be godparents. I’d not be surprised to see some of their close friends in the ranks, along with some family.
William’s six godparents included cousins such as the former King Constantine of Greece, Princess Alexandra, and Lord Romsey. There was a bit of a hullaballoo in the press at that time that none of Charles’ siblings were included in the group. Who knows if that is true, but for what it’s worth Prince Harry has six godparents as well and the Duke of York is one of them. Bottom line: siblings could be chosen!
Over in Europe, the royals have each other as godparents but I don’t really see that happening here since they don’t have the same close relationships. As fun as it would be to find out Princess Victoria of Sweden was in the ranks, I don’t think it’ll happen
So, here are my predictions. I’ve got five possibilities for each:
Prince Harry! He’s going to be such a fun uncle.
Thomas van Straubenzee: William was a groomsman at his wedding to Lady Melissa Percy earlier this summer and they go waaay back.
Hugh van Cutsem– Hugh’s daughter Grace was a flower girl at the wedding (the one who covered her ears on the balcony). Here he is with his wife:
Peter Philips – William’s first cousin, son of Princess Anne
Pippa Middleton: so that there will be some Middleton representation in the ranks. My guess for the heir is Pippa, and the spare will have James Middleton as a godfather if he doesn’t do anything too embarrassing before then.
Zara Philips, William’s first cousin who’s expecting a baby in the new year
A Spencer Lady: So these are the last three guesses. Diana’s sisters Lady Sarah McCquorcodale or Lady Jane Fellowes would be a nice way to include Diana’s side. William, Kate, and Harry all showed up for Emily McCorquodale’s Jun 2012 wedding, so I think she could be another contender . Our post on that wedding always is inexplicably one of our top posts EVER and can be found here if you’d like to see.
Any other ideas?
No doubt little Prince George will have a christening cake or two. Evidentially there were several ‘christening cakes’ at Prince Charles’ christening in 1948. Some decorations put on the Charles’ cakes were kept and included in an exhibit marking the Prince of Wales’ 60th birthday put on by the Royal Collection.
For example, these silk flowers adorned a cake at his christening and his great-grandmother Queen Mary tucked them away with this hand-written note:
“The silver carousel was made for one of Prince Charles’s Christening cakes by Lieut-Col. Bell and wounded ex-servicemen, and was engraved and polished by Peter Milton. It is engraved with the arms of his mother on one side, and of his father on the other. The baby in a cradle is rocked by a lion and a unicorn, supporters in the royal coat of arms.”
Perhaps they’ll bring out it for Baby Cambridge.
Queen Mary gave Prince Charles this christening cup, which has a very far reaching history:
This silver-gilt Christening cup was given by Queen Mary to Prince Charles, her godson and great-grandson, on his christening in 1948. It was made by the English silversmith Thomas Heming and was originally a christening gift from King George III to The Hon. Augustus Legge, son of the 2nd Earl of Dartmouth, who was christened in May 1773.
Another tradition to include! Time to pass it on, Charles.
Side Note: Baby Prince Charles also received this little fork, knife, and spoon in a leather carrying case.
But could anything be as cute as Princess Estelle of Sweden? It’s debatable. that little sash is tough to beat!
In case you haven’t had enough yet, here are our other posts on royal christening gowns and ceremonies. Have at ’em if you wish:
Well that was fun. Hurray for live streaming on the internet so we are no longer beholden to the news.
Everything that went down today outside the front door of the Lindo Wing was all well thought out and co-ordinated. I mean, this had been planned to precision, so let’s discuss.
First up, we saw photographs of Kate’s hairdresser and an aide with a car seat heading in a back entrance earlier today, so it seemed Kate & William were preparing for their big exit.
This brought back memories of seeing pictures of a woman looking alarmingly like Sarah Burton arriving at The Goring Hotel pre-wedding to make sure Kate’s wedding dress was just so. Remember that? She tried to hide with that get up, but no dice:
Anyway, then there were two sets of visitors today. First we had Carole and Michael Middleton arriving in the mid afternoon, followed by Charles and Camilla who presumably needed a bit more time getting there after their engagements in Yorkshire.
Obviously, for a normal visit to the hospital the grandparents wouldn’t be getting all gussied up but when there are banks of photographers waiting, you put on a nice dress (which I love) and a smart jacket like the Middletons did.
Interestingly they showed up in a cab. Is that cabbie going to have a story to tell, or what? Was it just a random cabbie or one that the Middletons call when they’re in London perhaps? I’m waiting for that to show up on the Daily Mail. I’m thinking that Carole and Michael drove in and went over to Pippa’s flat where they left their car, and then took a cab from there to the hospital with some help from William and Kate’s office to co-ordinate it so that they could easily drive in, have the taxi waiting, and head off again. Yes, I think about these things.
In yesterday’s post I mentioned I couldn’t really imagine that the Middletons would speak to the press afterwards but I’m glad I was wrong. Michael seemed a bit shy (he just seems so darn nice what with his slightly rumpled pants and all) and like he just wanted to get in the cab already. But he stuck with it and let Carole do the chatting. Love how she said “Fabulously!” when she was asked how Kate and William were doing. It sounded very like Michelle Dockery on Downton Abbey. Fabulously!
Then up came Charles and Camilla and they went in for a half hour or so. On the way out Charles spilled the beans about the baby that “You wait and see. You’ll see in a moment.” Hurrah!
An hour and half or so later, Kate and William made their exit.
First a stream of staff members came out to stand by the steps which is definitely something to write home about. That’s a good day at the office, am I right? And then Kate and William appeared in co-ordinated baby blue outfits, because of course.
Do you think she had a pink polka dot dress on standby along with a pink button down for William? I must admit these are the things I think about and I know Kate does, too. I think she totally did.
Hmmm….well, it looks like she had a few dresses to choose from at least:
Also, she was not actively trying to avoid a Diana comparison since Diana first appeared with William in a green polka dot frock (which she had worn a couple of weeks prior at a polo match) on those same steps. So Kate really kept the traditions going today:
And while we’re at it, as we mentioned yesterday, Kate’s doctor was totally appropriately co-ordinated, too. He appeared last night in this pink shirt and blue tie:
After a few moments, Kate did the hand over to William, then off they went down the steps they went for a chat with the assembled press. Kate looked to William to do most of the chatting. Here’s a transcript of everything that went down.
Media: a reporter says something like “Tell us about him, your baby boy” It’s so darn hard to hear what he actually said, so bear with me.
William: Well he’s got a good pair of lungs on him, that’s for sure. He’s a big boy. He’s quite heavy, but uh we’re still working on a name, so we’ll have that as soon as we can, but, uh, it’s the first time we’ve seen him really so we’re having a proper chance to catch up.
Media: And then another says something like “How are you feeling?”
William: Very emotional.
Kate: Yes, it’s very emotional. It’s such a special time. I think any parents I think probably sort of… know what this feeling feels like. (We’ll give her a break, she must have been tuckered out)
William: It’s very special.
Media: There was a four hour wait between the birth and the announcement. That was time for you, I assume.
William: It was and I’ll remind him of his tardiness when he’s a bit older. I know how long you’ve all been standing out here, so hopefully the hospital and you guys can all go back to normal and we can, you know, go look after him…
Media: something about how the baby is looking
William: He’s got her looks thankfully.
Kate: No, no, no. I’m not sure about that.
William says something to Kate about walking down to the other reporters
Media:Ok I really can’t hear what the reporter is asking…it’s got to be something about something about the baby’s name
Updated July 24: The reporter was asking if the name would be George! And as confirmed today, the baby’s name is George Alexander Louis
William: (laughing) wait and see wait and see.
Media: Have you changed the first nappy?
William: Oh, we’ve done that already.
Kate: Yes, yes, he’s done the first nappy already.
William: It’s good.
Kate: He’s very, very good.
Media: Some sort of comment about the baby’s hair that I can’t quite make out
William: He’s got way more than me, thank God.
And then there were lots of thank you’s and off they went up the steps again and into the building to get Baby Cambridge all situated in the car seat.
Then out they came with William carrying the car seat and I’ve got to ask – was William driven home in a car seat or were they much more cavalier in 1982? I can’t make that out in the available videos.
William did an impressive job of getting it in the car seamlessly. Then off they went to KP, with William at the wheel. It seems like it was purposefully normal in what was obviously not a not normal situation and you gotta love that that’s how they wanted it.
So what is next??
There’s been a lot of talk about Kate heading off to her parents house for a few weeks and it’s possible that the drive to KP drive was a ruse and that they were heading to the Middleton’s after. Logistically I think it’s far more likely that they’re staying in their little two bedroom cottage in Kensington Palace. It’s called Nottingham Cottage or ‘NotCot’ and it’s their home at KP until their twenty room apartment is ready in the fall. If you like, you can check out our post on NotCot here.
We know William has a couple of week’s off, and they have some family in London that need to see the baby before Kate is spirited off to Bucklebury. Namely, the Queen. I can’t imagine that she’ll be popping by the Middleton’s home with Philip in tow.
So, perhaps Kate and William will make the short drive over to Buckingham Palace at some point before the Queen heads to Balmoral on Friday for a wee visit.
Updated July 24: Kate came to William and Kate at Nottingham Cottage. I’m sure they had a chat about the baby’s name and she must have given George Alexander Louis the seal of approval, even though it wasn’t required. How nice. And Kate and William and Baby George are in Bucklebury now after having had a visit with Prince Harry at KP as well.
And then there’s Harry, evidentally off in training. He must be itching to come for a visit as soon as he has some time off, and there were reports that Pips and her boyfriend have already been to KP for a visit. They must be happy to be chilling out now in sweatpants.
Before we sign off, Sophie (who was looking AMAZING in a summery white dress), spoke a bit about the news at her engagement today.
She really seems genuinely excited and happy about the news, and very real about when they’ll likely meet the baby.She said:
“Not yet, I’ve sent messages, but I’m hoping in the next couple of days to catch up with them. I think they’ll probably be wanting to just be together at the moment… I think, well, having had babies myself I know that you really want to sort of close down the hatches and just be together with your immediate family in the first few days, so I hope to be able to see the baby sometime soon, but not plans as yet.”
She seems to totally get it! I wonder if Kate will be brave enough to take Baby Cambridge to Balmoral during the summer break so the family can all have a visit with him.
This is William and Harry with Charles mucking around at Balmoral in 1987:
So hopefully we’ll have Baby Cambridge’s name reveal SOON…and then we have the christening to look forward to! More posts coming in the next few days.
Updated July 24: Hurrah for Baby George Alexander Louis
In our last post, we really dove in and hashed out potential names if William and Kate have a girl. Click here if you missed it. It may look like we’re throwing a bunch of names at a wall and seeing what will stick, and maybe we are, but there’s some reasoning behind all of it.
So it’s time to talk boy names. My guess is that Baby Cambridge will be a girl but recently there has been some speculation in the press that Kate & William are having a boy. Like check out this piece from The Mirror here. I’m not sure I believe it – the sources seem super sketchy and I hate to think that Harry would have let that slip. Well, time will tell.
So let’s dive in to the boy names we think might just make the cut. I must say I’m not as confident on these as I am on the top four girl’s names predicted. Boys are tougher. But let’s try.
UPDATED JULY 24, 2013:Clarence house has announced: The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are delighted to announce that they have named their son George Alexander Louis. The baby will be known as His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge.
Prediction #1: George
Current Name Rank
This name is currently ranked at #12 for boys names in England and Wales. So, yeah it’s very common but with good reason.
Farmer or earth worker. How very down to earth!
The Tradition & History Test
Well where to begin? We’ve got St. George, patron saint of England and oodles of King Georges. Most recently, Queen Elizabeth II’s dad chose to be known as King George VI. This name gets a blue ribbon in the tradition stakes.
The Title Test
His Royal Highness Prince George
His Majesty King George VII
Yeah, it’ll do….thought the fact that it’s been so widely reported to be a front runner could work against it. Who knows?
Prediction #2: Arthur
Current Name Rank
Arthur currently ranks #68 for boys names in England and Wales, so it’s popular but not too popular.
Noble, courageous. Love that.
The Tradition & History Test
This is another name with a long royal history, starting with the legend of King Arthur.
Queen Victoria chose to name one of her sons Arthur. Here he is:
His full title was HRH Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn. One of the titles conferred on Kate and William by the Queen was the Earl and Countess of Strathearn, so that’s a nice little connection there. There’s a Canadian connection, too: Prince Arthur was appointed Governor General of Canada back in 1911.
Plus, the first of Prince William’s middle names is Arthur and this could have been his first one. If reports are true, this is what Charles’ first choice was but Diana nixed that in favour or William. William’s full name is William Arthur Philip Louis. Notably, one of Prince Charles’ middle names is also Arthur.
The Title Test
His Royal Highness Prince Arthur
His Majesty King Arthur
I’m giving these two names 100% for the title test!
Prediction #3: Louis
Current Name Rank
Interestingly, Louis is tied for #68 with Arthur. Huh. Again, popular but not too popular.
‘Fame and war’…meh
The Tradition & History Test
Ok, so William was named Louis in recognition of Louis, Lord Mountbatten, who was an extremely important figure in Prince Charles’ life. This fellow here:
Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex has Louis as one of his middle names, likely also in Lord Mountbatten’s honour.
I’m wondering if the fact that there’s already a Lady Louise in the British royal family could make this name a no-go…but I’m keeping it on the list because it just strikes me as a name that both William and Kate would like. It’s regal but has a certain sweetness to it at the same time.
The Title Test
His Royal Highness Prince Louis
His majesty King Louis
I like it! He gets his own somewhat unique name in that it hasn’t been used much in the British Royal Family, but there is some history there as well. Can’t count this name out!
Prediction #4: David
Current Name Rank:
In England and Wales, this name ranks at #57.
Tradition & History:
St. David is the patron Saint of Wales, so this name would be rather appropriate, wouldn’t you say? Prince William joined Diana on St. David’s Day in Cardiff, Wales back in 1991:
The only living member of the Royal Family who has David as a first name is David Linley, Princess Margaret’s son. He’s at the top here:
The Title Test:
HRH Prince David
His Majesty King David
Yes and YES.
Prediction #5 The Wild Card – Fergus
This is out there, but here me out. And that is what wild cards are for, anyway.
Current Name Rank:
This name is not in the top 100 baby names in England in Wales, which makes it more appealing.
Something to do with “strength of man”
The Tradition & History Test
This was a popular royal name for the Celts in Ireland and was also popular in Scotland and dare I say that it’s appropriate for a few reasons:
1. The scottish history is a nice nod to St. Andrew’s university in Scotland where Kate and William met
2. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother had a brother named Fergus who was tragically killed at the Battle of Loos. The two of them had a special bond, so this would be a nice tribute to that branch of William’s family
3. One of William and Kate’s good friends from university is Fergus Boyd, so they’d have good associations with this name. Like some other names we’ve put out there, this fact might work against this name, in which case I say, go for Angus! Angus works, too. Love both names.
The Title Test:
I think Prince Fergus and King Fergus both sound awesome. As do Prince Angus and King Angus. or Prince Duncan and King Duncan…..Yeah, these three are working for me!
A Few Solid Maybe’s for Good Measure:
Albert – I can’t totally cut this name out – there is so much history attached (Prince Albert/ Bertie! Alberta!) and it’s a cute name – but I feel like Prince Albert of Monaco makes this name a little less likely to be seriously considered by Kate and William
Oliver – There isn’t much in the way of royal precedent here but this is another name that I think both Kate and William would like. They do have a close friend named Oliver “Ollie” Baker which could work for or against this name, who the hell knows? plus Kate’s great-grandmother was named Olive. Love that.
Edwin – from ye old times (like he died in 1073), Prince Edwin was a prince and warrior in North Wales
Philip – a nice nod to Prince Philip and a more subtle nod to Pippa Middleton…everybody wins! This is on the maybe list because I feel like it’s a bit obvious…I’d say it’s a for sure for a middle name, though.
Potential Middle Names:
James – If it weren’t for the fact that Sophie & Edward have a son named James, I’d say this was a real possibility as a first name…though Kate’s brother is named James so that could sway this choice either way. Meh….now I’m thinking it’s a likely middle name
William – For sure. No Question.
Peter – For Kate’s Grandad and William’s cousin Peter Philips
Philip – For Pippa and perhaps more importantly, Prince Philip
Michael – for Kate’s dad
Charles – another no brainer
Henry – Ditto
David – a family name and the patron saint of Wales so what the heck, eh?
Duncan – I just want to throw in one more Scottish name for good measure. So Scottish – and a middle name of Prince Leopold, one of Queen Victoria’s sons. Shakespearean. Heck, I think this would be a brilliant first name, too.
Patrick – and here we have an Irish one.Wouldn’t that be diplomatic of Kate and Wills? An irish name, a Scottish name, a Welsh name if we get Arthur or David, and an English name will be in there for sure. How very diplomatic that would be.
All right, after rattling off so many names here’s Royal Poster #1’s final guess:
His Royal Highness Prince George William Philip Duncan Charles
And Royal Poster #2:
His Royal Highness Prince George William Philip Charles Michael
Ok, what do you think? Are we off our rockers? Join in the fun in the comments!
Settle in to your easy chairs…it’s time for us to weigh in with baby name predictions for Baby Cambridge and this is a looooong winded post. This post focuses on girls names and our post on boys names can be found here. Hope you’ll chime in with your ideas, too.
As Kate herself said on her recent trip to Scotland, “We have a shortlist for both (a boy and girl), but it’s very difficult. My friends keep texting me names.” (Source).
As we all know, William and Kate have a tough job here. Whatever name they choose has to tick a heck of a lot of boxes. I mean, the name has to:
Be respectful of tradition (there will be no Savannah’s for example)
Look good on coins, stamps, money, mailboxes, etc.
Stand up to the scrutiny of millions of subjects
They can’t mess around. So to begin let’s look at what we know.
1. Tradition, Tradition, Tradition
First of all, we know that tradition is important here. Naturally, Queen Victoria’s children’s names have provided inspiration in the naming of many royal children and so the bulk of my predictions are in that direction.
For example, Prince Edward (who shares his name with Queen Victoria’s son King Edward VII) and Sophie named their daughter Louise. Louise was the name of Queen Victoria’s daughter (her full name was Louise Caroline Alberta). She really just seems like such a cutie:
Source: Dan Kitwood/Getty
And of course, The Duke and Duchess of York named their daughter Beatrice after Queen Victoria’s youngest child. Incidentally, that Beatrice named her daughter Victoria Eugenia, which of course inspired Princess Eugenie of York’s name.
Source: Samir Hussein/Getty Images
So that leaves us with a few more names of Queen Victoria’s children’s names still up for grabs.
2. The Language of Flowers is Kate’s Thing
On top of the Queen Victoria naming tradition, we know that Kate likes the Language of Flowers. During Victorian times, communicating using the language of flowers was popular (ivy for endurance, thistle for nobility, etc.) and Kate made the Language of Flowers the theme for her and William’s wedding. She was all over it and no doubt that was her plan for years So, I’m thinking that she likes pretty and feminine but strong girls names. I mean, Kate likes lace and classic dresses and bone china and I think her favourite baby names will reflect that. I really don’t think we’re going to have a Princess Estelle situation here.
In no particular order, here are the predictions:
Prediction #1: Alice
This name ticks all the boxes.
Current Name Rank
The most current statistics for baby names in England and Wales gives the name a ranking of #32 (Source). This could be a bit high for William and Kate’s liking, but I just can’t count this name out. It is far less popular in the Unites States: the most current statistics for baby names in the USA give the name a ranking of #142 (Source).
“Of Noble Kind.” Yeah, that works!
The Tradition & History Test:
There are quite a few past Royal Alice’s. Let’s count them down.
1. HRH Princess Alice Maude Mary, Grand Duchess of Hesse (1843 – 1878)
Born in 1843, Princess Alice Maude Mary was Queen Victoria’s third child. She married the Duke of Hesse and her daughter was Empress Alexandra Feodorovna, wife of Tsar Nicholas and mum of Anastiasia. Here she is looking rather non plussed around 1875:
Naturally, this Princess was named after this first Princess Alice. So, Prince Philip’s mum was Queen Victoria’s great granddaughter. Princess Alice was apparently born in Queen Victoria’s presence at Windsor Castle, so this name definitely fits with history and tradition.
3. Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester (1901 – 2004)
Of course, there is another member of the Royal Family named Alice as well. That would be Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, who married into the family way back in 1935:
We also know that Kate’s dissertation at St. Andrew’s University was on Lewis Carol, author of Alice in Wonderland…so I’d think it’s safe to say she’s a fan.
As a final note, one of Lady Louise Windsor’s middle names is Alice. BOOM.
The Title Test:
How does these sound:
Her Royal Highness Princess Alice
Her Royal Highness Princess Alice of Wales
Her Majesty Queen Alice
Sounds good to me!
Prediction #2: Charlotte
Another solid name idea is the soft but strong sounding Charlotte. Kate totally strikes me as someone who would like the name Charlotte. Princess Charlotte Elizabeth Catherine…yes I am really feeling this one.
Current Name Rank
The most current statistics for baby names in England and Wales gives the name a ranking of #21 (Source). As is the case with Alice, this could be a bit high for William and Kate’s liking…but again, I just can’t count this name out! It is equally popular in the Unites States: the most current statistics for baby names in the USA give the name a ranking of #27 (Source)
“Strong Woman.” Ain’t nothin’ wrong with that.
The History & Tradition Test
1. Prince Charles
Right off the bat, Charlotte is the feminine form of Charles, so I think Prince Charles would be pretty tickled pink about this choice. Tickled pink! And he’s just one of the many Charles’ in the history of the British royal family, so there’s that.
Here are a couple of Charlottes for inspiration:
2. Princess Charlotte of Wales (1796 – 1817)
This Charlotte lived in William and Kate’s home, Kensington Palace. She had a rather tragic and short life, but did she ever have a lovely name.
3. Philippa Charlotte Middleton
That’s right. Pippa’s middle name is Charlotte and no doubt she’s going to be a godmother to Baby Cambridge, so this name would also be a nice nod to her without being so bold as to name the kid Philippa.
Yep, this name works. And Bonus: it’s a cute name when you’re three and stands the test of time when you’re older.
UPDATED: As reader Lynne helpfully pointed out in the comments below, Princess Diana’s brother Earl Spencer named his daughter Lady Charlotte (his 7th child!) which had totally slipped our minds…so perhaps this name is out. Rats!!
Prediction #3: Caroline
Current Name Rank
This isn’t currently in the top 100 in England and Wales and in the USA, it comes in at #87. (Source). I think it’s worth throwing into the mix and here’s why:
Of Scottish origin, this name means Joy. Sweet, right?
The History and Tradition Test
1. Carole Middleton
This one would make Kate’s Mom Carole very happy, and isn’t so obvious as just naming the kid Princess Carole…which sounds just awful.
Also, there have been plenty of Carolines in the British royal family. Here are three of them:
2. Caroline of Ansbach (1683 – 20 November 1737)
3. Princess Caroline Matilda of Great Britain (1751 – 1775)
4. Queen Caroline (1768 – 1821)
We can already see from the list above that this name works with both ‘Princess’ and ‘Queen’…Yep, that’ll do.
Prediction #4: Georgia or Georgiana
Ok, I knew I wanted a name on this list that wasn’t quite so obvious as the ones we’ve got on there so far. Heck, William and Kate named their dog Lupo so a little ingenuity isn’t beyond them. Here’s why I chose Georgia…or Georgiana if they want to get a wee bit more flowery:
The feminine form of George. Of Greek origin, the name means farmer.
In England and Wales, this name currently comes in at #60 (Source) and it comes in at #305 in the USA (Source). Obviously, that would rocket right up if this was the chosen name.
The History & Tradition Test
This name might just be the most historic of them all. We have:
1. Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire (nee Lady Georgiana Spencer) 1757-1806
Georgiana grew up at Althorp, Princess Diana’s ancestral home, and was one of the leading socialites of the day. Her father was the first Earl Spencer while Diana’s father was the 8th, so this would be a nice nod to William’s maternal side of the family.
2. St. George, Patron Saint of England
I mean, hello! This is perfect.
3. And there have been SO many English kings named George. Take a look for yourself:
George I of Great Britain (1660–1727), King of Great Britain and Ireland 1714-1727
George II of Great Britain (1683–1760), King of Great Britain and Ireland 1727-1760
George III of the United Kingdom (1738–1820), King of the United Kingdom 1760-1820
George IV of the United Kingdom (1762–1830), King of the United Kingdom 1820-1830
George V of the United Kingdom (1865–1936), King of Great Britain and Ireland 1910-1936
George VI of the United Kingdom (1895–1952), King of Great Britain and Ireland 1936-1952
The Title Test:
As far as I have been able to research, there hasn’t been a Princess Georgia before which is quite nice…and it sounds great. I also think that Queen Georgia works. Hey, there’s been a Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands…I think we can handle Queen Georgia or Queen Georgiana.
Prediction #5: Maud
This name is certainly more unique, and the more I think about it, the more I’m convinced this is a solid option that has largely been overlooked.
Maud currently doesn’t rank in the top 100 baby names for England and Wales, nor is it in the top 500 names currently in the USA. Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a unique possibility here.
History & Tradition:
There are a couple of royal connections to this name.
1. Princess Maud Charlotte Mary of Wales (1869 – 1938) was the daughter of King Edward VII and the granddaughter of Queen Victoria. She went on to mary King Haakon of Norway, who also happened to be her first cousin, and split her time between Norway and England. Check out more on her here.
2. We also have Princess Maude, Countess of Southesk (1893-1945). She was the daughter of Louise, Princess Royal and the Duke of Fife and she went on to marry Charles Carnegie, the 11th Earl of Southesk. You can read more about her here.
3. Plus, we know that Kate loves Anne of Green Gables, which was written by Lucy Maud Montgomery…
So what the heck, eh? I’m really feeling this name.
One other Possibility, Just for the heck of it:
Alexandra – such a royal name, and one that hasn’t been used in a while. plus, it’s a long name that goes well with William and Catherine.
Prince William has four middle names so I think we can count on this kid having at least that many as well. Here are some predictions on what they will be, in addition to any of the names we’ve already discussed:
Elizabeth – This would 100% bea given if William and Kate have a girl. It would recognize the current Queen, the Queen Mother, and heck even Queen Elizabeth I. Also, Kate’s middle name is Elizabeth in recognition of her great-grandmother.
Diana – The Royal Posters are completely divided on this one. One says 100% no. The other (me) says yes. I mean, Kate got the ring, the kid may be getting the name -but only as a middle name! No way in heck is this going to be a first name. Please, no.
Philippa -This is a total wild card, and I keep talking myself out of it…and then talking myself back into it. In the end, I think this is a solid option for a middle name and is extremely unlikely to be a first name. Let’s delve into it a bit more for the heck of it:Name Meaning:The feminine form of Philip, this name means “lover of horses” and the British Royals generally do love their horses.Current RankIn England and Wales, this name doesn’t make it into the top 100 and it doesn’t make it into the top 500 in the USA, which is a tick in the ‘plus’ column.History & Tradition1. Philippa Middleton
Ok, the obvious one here is that Philippa aka Pippa, is Kate’s sister, but it’s also quite a lovely British name. And yes, maybe this would be way overkill and William wouldn’t be down with it. I get it. I do. But I’m keeping it on the list!
2. Prince Philip
the name would be a nice nod to William’s grandfather Prince Philip, so both sides of the family would be represented with this choice. Plus, Prince Philip and Kate’s grandad knew each other back in the day. Check out our post on that here.
Frances – This is William’s maternal grandmother’s name. Diana definitely had an up and down relationship with her, but it is believed that William and Harry both had a pretty good relationship with her. This was also Diana’s middle name, and Francis is Kate’s dad’s middle name.
Rose – Princess Margaret’s middle name and, hello, Kate as discussed likes The Language of Flowers
Mary – It’s a good royal name, so it’s getting a spot.
Helena – another good royal name and the name of one of Queen Victoria’s daughters
Cecilia – I just think this is a name Kate would be totally down with, even as a first name. There’s not much in the way of Royal precedent apart from the fact that Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother’s mum’s name was Cecilia, but I want to add it in here anyway. Princess Cecilia…Queen Cecilia…Yep. Totally down with this, Kate and William. Go for it!
Very Unlikely First Names:
While we’re on the subject, here are a few of the names that keep popping up in the press that I just completely disagree with and I want to go on record saying so:
Adelaide – A much as some Australians might like it, I just don’t see it happening. Yes, it’s a middle name of one of Queen Victoria’s daughters but I just don’t see it.
Victoria – I think Kate and William are looking for something a little more fresh and unique…and Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden has this name covered.
Diana – As discussed, this is firmly a middle name. I’d be shocked otherwise. Shocked, I say!!
And to finish off, here’s Royal Poster #1’s final guess:
Her Royal Highness Princess Alice Mary Diana Elizabeth
And Royal Posters #2’s final guess:
Her Royal Highness Princess Alice Mary Elizabeth Diana
And then any future sister would be Maud. Alice and Maud go very well together, me thinks.
Ok, so what do you think? If Kate and William see this (hey, you never know) are they going to change their minds? Or are we totally off, do you think? Please share!
There’s been much excitement following the early announcement that William and Kate are expecting a baby. There’s much to discuss here at the Royal Post! To kick things off, let’s talk titles. Here we go!
The current state of titles in the British Royal family, and who can claim the title of HRH Prince and HRH Princess goes back to King George V in 1917. In an attempt to streamline the royal family, letters patent were issued stating “the children of any Sovereign of these Realms and the children of the sons of any such Sovereign and the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales shall have and at all times hold and enjoy the style, title or attribute of Royal Highness with their titular dignity of Prince or Princess prefixed to their respective Christian names or with their other titles of honour”.
So, when William was born he was HRH Prince William Arthur Philip Louis of Wales.
Under these rules, the children of the Queen, when she was Princess Elizabeth, would not have received titles. So, in 1948 The Queen’s father, King George VI granted letters patent declaring that children of the marriage of HRH Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of Edinburgh, and HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, should “have and at all times hold and enjoy the style, title or attribute of Royal Highness and the titular dignity of Prince or Princess prefixed to their respective Christian names in addition to any other appellations and titles and honour which may belong to them hereafter”.
The 1917 letters patent also stated that “grandchildren of the sons of any such Sovereign in the direct male line … shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of Dukes of these Our Realms”
So, what does this mean for William and Kate’s children?
If the Queen is still on the Throne when their first child is born, an eldest son will receive the title of HRH Prince <name>. Other sons and daughters will have the titles of the children of a royal Duke. So,an eldest daughter will receive the title of The Lady <Name> and any subsequent sons and daughters will have the title of The Lord <name> and The Lady <name>.
Now, all of this changes again when Prince Charles becomes King. When this happens, all of William and Kate children will all become HRH Prince and HRH Princess, as children of the heir to the throne.
Isn’t that interesting? However, there are reports now that the Palace is saying that an eldest daughter will also receive the title of HRH Princess <name> since times have changes and a daughter will have the same rights to inherit as a son.
Let us know what you think in the comments!
UPDATED January 12, 2013:“The Queen has been pleased by Letters Patent under the Great Seal of the Realm dated 31 December 2012 to declare that all the children of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales should have and enjoy the style, title and attribute of royal highness with the titular dignity of Prince or Princess prefixed to their Christian names or with such other titles of honour.”
I’m surprised it doesn’t say “all LEGITIMATE children….” I mean, look at Prince Albert!
UPDATED June 2013: It has been announced that the child of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will hold the title Prince or Princess of Cambridge
This is a big day! As you will have heard by now, William and Kate announced that they are expecting a baby today. This announcement was made earlier than originally planned due to Kate becoming ill with hyperemesis gravidarun while staying at the Middleton home in Bucklebury.
The decision was made to make the announcement early in case the story was leaked. The Queen and various family members and officials received word only shortly before the public announcement. The staff at St James Palace have been busy handling the press interest all day and the official website of the Duke and Duchess has crashed. Wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall in that office right now?
We have a host of plans of posts to come over the next few weeks and months (Names! Titles! Godparents!) but for now, here are a few quick facts:
This baby will be:
The Queen’s third great-grandchild (after Peter and Autumn Phillips’ two kids Savannah and Isla)
Third in line to the throne
Charles first grandchild
Carole and Michael Middleton’s first grandchild
Heir to the Duchy of Cornwall, regardless of gender, when William inherits the Throne
Titled as Lord or Lady upon birth, not as Prince or Princess, if the Queen is still on the Throne. Yes, you read that right! More information to come on the titles of this royal heir in a future post!
Back in their official engagement interview on November 16th, 2010, when asked about their plans for a family William answered:
I think we’ll take it one step at a time. We’ll sort of get over the marriage first and then maybe look at the kids. But obviously we want a family so we’ll have to start thinking about that.
William has been photographed a few times holding babies, causing much ado in the press. Here he is in 2006 at St Mary’s Hospital, Paddington, West London (where William was also born):
And here is as godfather he at the London christening of Prince Konstantine Alexios in 1999. Prince Konstantine is the son of Crown Prince Pavlos and Crown Princess Marie Chantal of Greece (read more about Marie Chantal and her sisters here). William’s arm is in a sling after breaking his finger playing rugby at Eton.
Let’s take a wee walk down memory lane. On November 5, 1981, Diana’s first pregnancy was officially announced. Here is a picture of Charles and Diana leaving the hospital after William was born:
And here is Kate at her christening with her parents, Carole and Michael:
Stay tuned for more royal baby posts. We can wait to start talking about name predictions! Also, we’re looking forward to breaking down the titles of the future heir!